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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 13:08:30 GMT -6
Cad Bane, Ruthless Outlaw
Cost 47 HP: 90 DEF: 18 ATK: 12 DMG: 20
Unique Quick Shot: Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can immediately make one attack before any other character activates. Cutthroat: +10 Damage when using a special ability that deals damage, against an enemy that is in or adjacent to a square with low objects Professional: Can use 2 abilities that replace attacks instead of 1 on his turn, if the target is within 3 squares and exactly 1 enemy is within 3 squares Unorthodox: an enemy hit by this characters attack who has abilities or force powers that replace attacks instead replace turn for the rest of the round. Flame Thrower 20 Hired Gun Flight Hostage Shield: When this character would take damage from an attack, designate an adjacent character that is not the attacker to take the damage instead. That character avoids this effect with a save of 11.
CE: At the start of the skirmish choose any 1 enemy character, hired guns including this character gain accurate shot against that character
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Post by jenari on Jun 20, 2015 15:33:52 GMT -6
Unorthodox looks pretty cool and like it can be very fun. Also, it makes me think of his crafty plans screwing around with his adversary. His CE is pretty neat as well. Gives the "hunting one person" feeling. Can also be very powerful but it will be a lot easier to play test in all Fringe.
Hostage Shield and Smuggler might need a look. I sent you a text about adding Bounty Hunter to him.
Flight and Agile and Dodge with Hostage Shield is a lot of defense. but limited damage output, what is this guy looking at being able to gain damage boost wise? opportunist, anything else?
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 18:29:02 GMT -6
I know Jabba will give him grenades, stun gas, or missiles at the end of his turn. That is where I will start PTing him. He can be given Blast Cannon with a Czerka Elite. Which I would also run with him. He can then Twin for 30 a pop while within 6.
I know there is a Fringe Xizor that sucks, costs a lot and can boost dmg by 10. I doubt I would ever run him over Jabba and Czerka.
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 18:31:41 GMT -6
Then again, I'm not sure I would give Cad blast cannon over Calo. Calo is too good of a nuke piece to take that away from him.
I see Cad being ran with Nico, Calo, and Boba, with a Czerka Elite.
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 18:45:49 GMT -6
Alternate Cad stat block
HP: 90 DEF: 18 ATK: 12 DMG: 20
Unique Quick shot Cutthroat Professional Unorthodox Flame Thrower 20 Hired Gun Flight Hostage Shield
CE: See stat block above
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 18:55:42 GMT -6
I think I like the 2nd stat block. Same cost on both at 49.
Quick Shot, with Unorthadox, pretty awesome. Start of the round Cad can shoot someone hit them for a quick 20 now their replaces attacks abilities are replaces turn since Cad has them off their game. If Cad gets a line on someone he can Flamethrower twice for 40 total. 60 if your opponent positions bad. And then can throw a grenade, fire a missile, or use some stun gas via Jabba at the end of the round.
Cad is meant to be a power piece I think this accomplishes that.
Things Cad needs to pull all of this off...
1. To land his atk 2. To get only one opponent within 6 3. For that opponent to be adjacent to cover. 4. Needs to be close enough to a mouse or something to get Jabbas CE. 5. For the enemy to fail their save.
Best case scenario Cad could possibly do 30 with his attack with an elite czerka. Flamethrower twice for 60, and then toss a grenade.
So it's a very conditional 110 dmg. The damage is mostly built around bounty hunters tricks of the trade.
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 20, 2015 18:57:24 GMT -6
Also 2nd stat block has all defense removed except hostage shield. So he can be shot, weak against melee, etc.
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Post by jenari on Jun 21, 2015 5:35:55 GMT -6
I think the quick shot unorthodox combo really represents cad bane.
I would give him bh +4 and drop +4 part from the commander effect.
would twin blaster 20 fall under professional? it indirectly deals damage, but just gives attacks.
if it doesn't fall under professional I think he should gain twin blaster +20
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 21, 2015 5:57:15 GMT -6
I would want to see him played as is before I put twin blaster on him. He is pretty offensive as is.
I also really enjoyed Unorthadox and quick shot combo. I think it will be pretty awesome and captures Cad's fighting tactics well.
I also really enjoy hid CE and how he has multiple tricks and ways to fight you. Especially with Jabba. Cad always had an answer for everything.
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Post by jenari on Jun 21, 2015 14:18:46 GMT -6
we can test it out for sure.
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Post by deathsbaine on Jun 21, 2015 17:38:08 GMT -6
I say we test the second one, but please type out what the special abilities do,
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 22, 2015 9:30:57 GMT -6
Will do, I typed up the stat block on my phone.
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Post by jenari on Aug 8, 2015 6:08:35 GMT -6
would love to see written out version of this guy. sorry digging quick shot, unorthodox combo.
still think +4 to hired guns needs to go. even if it is against only one character. if that character is say, revan. than boba gets an extra +4 if you have jabba he gives all bh hired gun, so any other bh you can use gains the +4. etc etc
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Post by theultrastar on Aug 9, 2015 17:16:32 GMT -6
I will cut the plus 4 atk out, and I updated the initial post so that it has the current and up to date stat block.
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Post by jenari on Aug 9, 2015 17:19:11 GMT -6
looks really good, digging this cad
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