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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 17:29:45 GMT -6
Cost 40
HP 120
Def 21
Atk 13
Dam 30
Unique
Nightbrother
Twin Attack
Mighty Swing
Dark Armor
Force 4
lightsaber throw 1
Force Wave
Lightsaber Block
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 17:30:06 GMT -6
alright throwing our some ideas for savage opress. can easily change some stuff. I think this is the as good as it should ever be version. no let's see what people like and what people like and don't like
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Post by spryguy1981 on Jun 8, 2015 17:37:10 GMT -6
Could probably lose Sweeping attack as it's just not needed imho. Counter Grip is cool and should simply allow him to deal damage when he is hit by an attack.
Counter Grip (force 2, when this character is hit by an attack, the attacker takes 20damage.)
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 17:50:05 GMT -6
grip has never sat well with me I'm how it is portrayed in the minis. grip stops people in their tracks.
maybe make out force 3?
he was able to grip asajj and dooku at the same time. Perry crazy power
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Post by spryguy1981 on Jun 8, 2015 17:52:04 GMT -6
Counter Grip (force 2, when this character is hit by an attack, the attacker takes 20damage. The attacking characters turn is considered ended; save 11)
Wording would need to be cleaned up.
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 18:15:25 GMT -6
I like it
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Post by theultrastar on Jun 8, 2015 19:49:55 GMT -6
Sweeping Attack, is too much like Lightsaber Sweep. You just only have to roll once. I'd rather not create a new ability here.
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 20:23:36 GMT -6
for the record this is a community piece that Richard had drafted.
going to drop it no problem.
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 20:25:07 GMT -6
how about now?
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Post by pegolego on Jun 8, 2015 21:48:22 GMT -6
Any chance we can get Dark Acolyte on him, so he'd work with Dooku (that way it takes care of him so we don't need a future Dark Acolyte Savage  )? If that doesn't work with the ideas you wanted for the piece, I understand, it was just a thought. As far as the build, he can get 120 damage with Whorm, and has some great Force powers, but only F1/FR1, so probably balanced in that regard. Personally, the base stats (namely the defense rating) seem tad high to myself, but they don't seem like a particular problem. |
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Post by jenari on Jun 8, 2015 22:56:59 GMT -6
umm tbh I never saw Savage as a Dark Acolyte considering he was always Mother Talzin's pet. Its a community piece. so we can do whatever, just does not fit Savage imo.
Whorm, will have to change it than.
Can we not errata whorm to be non-unique gain twin?
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Post by pegolego on Jun 9, 2015 14:51:54 GMT -6
Well, his connections to the Dark Acolytes aren't quite as blatant as other characters, but them most of them are more or less (like Ventress, Quinlan Vos etc.), and once those 3 are taken out, the potential roster for Acolytes becomes VERY limited... I just figure we may as well make use of as many characters who could be Dark Acolytes as possible to work with Dooku and create more builds!  Personally I would find it strange if Whorm got an errata, especially if other things (such as Thrawn) didn't have one yet lol. Of course, at the same time, I don't know if Savage getting 120 damage (Double/Twin/CB) would be too bad in and of itself, as Maul, CotS for only 8 points more is pretty much on par with the piece (a bit higher HP but no Armor, similar stats, LSD instead of LSB etc.) except it can get upto EIGHT 30 damage attacks with Whorm. I know a lot of the time people want to stay away from Whorm with designing, but that Maul is pretty scary with Whorm and is practically never used anyway. Of course, if Tyranus is giving out Leaping, then this piece would be able to make 4 attacks on the MOVE, but only at 20 damage each, whereas Maul can do 3 times that much damage, but has to sit a turn to get it. Of course, it doesn't seem like anybody else wants Dark Acolytes to happen, so maybe the entire idea of it should just be scrapped until someone can make another Acolyte Dooku... Also, I may like to see this fella with higher HP, lower Defense and maybe losing LS Block; then he's more the big brute that can take a beating (with armor especially). |
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Post by jenari on Jun 22, 2015 15:05:34 GMT -6
I am not against dark acolytes. I am for changing original dooku a tad. I think dooku should be a power piece and falls under the rules for changes.
I have said my piece a few times about changes Rio older pieces that might not make the cut any more. very little support in that regard haha. but rules were made for designing and changing pieces which is awesome.
now if the dooku gets a change it will be because it falls under the power piece ruling, which I think it ought to be.
as far as dark acolytes go. I am a huge talzin fan so that is where my allegiance lies, haha. but this is not my piece we can take it wherever
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Post by jenari on Aug 23, 2015 18:07:52 GMT -6
watched some savage in action. made a few changes.
30 base damage, no jedi hatred since he kind of hated everything, I think the base 30 shows his raw strength and rage so no force power type of rage.
mighty swing because he used mighty swings of course and was able to knock jedi back with swings.
added lightsaber throw 2 and no renewal now. which I think is a nice touch and lowered cost just a little
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Post by spryguy1981 on Aug 23, 2015 18:32:17 GMT -6
Lightsaber throw 2 with twin and 30 base damage is a no go for me. Throw 1 with twin is fine. Don't need him dropping 120 damage.
Edit; it's actually potential 160 if he starts adjacent and throws.
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)? If that doesn't work with the ideas you wanted for the piece, I understand, it was just a thought.